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It's been estimated that the Honduran caravan is about 8-900 miles from the US border and some contend they will be here in time for the election.

On average, we walk about 3.1 miles an hour. It is currently 11/4/18 and the election is on 11/6/18

This means, at minimum, the caravan would need to travel 400 miles a day.

Given that the average person walks 3.1 miles an hour multiplied by 24 hours in a day, that's only 74.4 miles if they walk non stop and don't sleep, eat or shit.

If you give them credit for 16 hours of walk and 8 hours of rest per day, this puts them at 49.6 miles a day.

The actual distance they travel is somewhere between 20-30 miles per day, which puts their actual ETA somewhere around the beginning to middle of December.

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Hahahaha!
US troops lay down barbed wire along border ahead of caravan
https://nypost.com/2018/11/03/us-troops ... f-caravan/
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Kind of a waste of money if they ain't gonna be here for another month. If we had real leadership, he'd send troops down to Honduras to help liberate the people from the drug lords that are causing people to flee. At a guess, I'd say the reason they don't do that, is because the US is funding them in the first place. There's money to be made rounding up illegals. Now would be a good time to invest in CoreCivic (CXW) & GEO Group (GEO), before the mass roundup happens. Barb wire is a dumb idea. All they will do is gather up some ragged clothes, pile them up on a section of the fencing, and come right over with no worries of being cut.
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Phreakwars wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 4:49 am Kind of a waste of money if they ain't gonna be here for another month. If we had real leadership, he'd send troops down to Honduras to help liberate the people from the drug lords that are causing people to flee. At a guess, I'd say the reason they don't do that, is because the US is funding them in the first place. There's money to be made rounding up illegals. Now would be a good time to invest in CoreCivic (CXW) & GEO Group (GEO), before the mass roundup happens. Barb wire is a dumb idea. All they will do is gather up some ragged clothes, pile them up on a section of the fencing, and come right over with no worries of being cut.
Why should we do it? Why not Mexico or any other country in the world? Explain.

We've already been to Honduras before. Was a waste. I know old soldiers who where there back in 89'. What a fucking joke.

Come to think of it, why shouldn't they fix their OWN fucking country?
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We should do it, because it would prevent them from coming here. Wasn't the excuse to fight the war on terrorism all about fighting them there so we wouldn't have to do it here? While these are not terrorists, they are desperate people, we still need to take a different approach rather then demonizing them. Last time we were there it was because of the Sandinista government from Niggeragua (Iran-Contra bullshit) and the troops were helping rebels, not the government so much. If they went in this time, it would be to help the government police the shithole. I don't think you'd see much action, if any at all from the drug lords because they are weak pussies who target unarmed civilians and are too afraid to take on an actual soldier. Another thing that would help, is just legalize pot. These drug lords ain't getting rich off the locals, they are getting rich off of good ole American stoners. But again, I doubt this would happen because the US is more then likely helping the drug lords. There is always money to be made off of someone's misery, best to make someone in another country miserable first.
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legalize gang weed, slonking is not a crime
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Sides have been taken when it comes to illegal immigration and the caravan, and much confusion surrounds it all. If you come into the country illegally, you can, will and should be promptly deported. But what about the caravan? Aren't they doing something illegal as well?

To answer this, one needs to merely look at what the actual law is on this.(*)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1158

In essence, no, they would not be committing any crime if they are seeking asylum. This is where there is much confusion and differing opinions. While yes, it is illegal to cross the border for things like a job, to deal some drugs, to go shopping, see a Dr., etc.. It is not illegal to cross over and seek asylum. So this is where our border laws actually work for the benefit of those fleeing the street gangs. Though, they must prove the situation they were in warrants asylum. While many don't want them to cross over at all, by law, they can do so. This does not mean they will be granted asylum. It just means they are entitled to plead their case in an effort to stay in the country. In all likelihood, the caravan will dwindle in numbers as many of them settle within Mexico, or not even come to America at all. While others that do cross over to seek asylum, will in all likelihood, be denied and told to return. The vast majority of what people are hearing and or parroting about the caravan is merely political fodder and not representative on either side of the debate, of what the actual process involves.

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Phreakwars wrote: Sun Nov 04, 2018 5:15 am We should do it, because it would prevent them from coming here. Wasn't the excuse to fight the war on terrorism all about fighting them there so we wouldn't have to do it here? While these are not terrorists, they are desperate people, we still need to take a different approach rather then demonizing them. Last time we were there it was because of the Sandinista government from Niggeragua (Iran-Contra bullshit) and the troops were helping rebels, not the government so much. If they went in this time, it would be to help the government police the shithole. I don't think you'd see much action, if any at all from the drug lords because they are weak pussies who target unarmed civilians and are too afraid to take on an actual soldier. Another thing that would help, is just legalize pot. These drug lords ain't getting rich off the locals, they are getting rich off of good ole American stoners. But again, I doubt this would happen because the US is more then likely helping the drug lords. There is always money to be made off of someone's misery, best to make someone in another country miserable first.
Why us? Why us alone? I don't care about the war on terror or any of that other shit. You can say what you want about it, it's bullshit IMO, but it doesn't have anything to do with this issue. If you want to equate the bullshit of the war on terror with this bullshit than you are basically saying we should do the same bullshit because we did it before. And why doesn't anyone else share in this? Are we the only country in the world that should pay for everything?

We have enough desperate people within our own borders already. We don't need to introduce more.
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Because US policy is what created the mess. This is where we get the term "banana republic" from. Happened starting in the early 1900s. Reagan tried fixing it, but his approach was deregulation, which really spun it out of control. This along with US need for drugs, gave rise to the gangs that control the streets. I too don't think we should go it alone, we'd just end up fucking it up more because of greed. We need an international effort to stabilize and then you'd more then likely see a huge exodus of legal and illegal immigrants out of the US and back to Honduras. In the end, this will make all the racist happy, and stabilize our world economy a bit more.
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Phreakwars wrote: Mon Nov 05, 2018 10:40 pm We need an international effort to stabilize and then you'd more then likely see a huge exodus of legal and illegal immigrants out of the US and back to Honduras.
Was that a serious line of thinking?
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Yes, but it will never happen. Someone will want to make a buck and end up making it worse. This is how we got ISIS. Saddam, like him or not, kept the animals under control... tyrannical control, but still control. His capture and fall created chaos and unleashed the sick fucks who like beheading others. Keep in mind the vast majority of people that ISIS kills, are other Muslims, but that's a different topic.
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